Thanks Grubstake. I'm still around. All the folks here seem to be good people. I'd also venture a guess that most of them also have some doubts. (how could you not after 20 years?) We all get sensitive when we have money on the table. I don't have that much in the pot and have a tendency forget that the bigger the pot the higher the sensitivity. I lost a lot more on a company very similar to this one. Kept averaging down a little at a time. Before I knew it I too became very sensitive to naysayers and said some things I later had to eat. Same forward looking PR's. Same always looking for new investors. Always signing new exclusives agreements that meant nothing. To date those agreements are the only product they have ever sold. Cotes at least has a product. All he needs is orders and a facility to manufacture them. In order to secure that he needs third party verification that it works as advertised. Passing a vehicle inspection test doesn't quite cut it. The most troubling thing about Coates to me is the dilution issue. Don't understand how that can be good for stockholders. I'll continue to follow this and enjoy the back and forth. I see myself in a lot of folks here.