And I keep asking, how do we know that there were actually talks about a JV? Who checks up on that stuff. So they filed it in an 8K. Does it make it true? The retraining. How would anyone ever verify that? Again, I reiterate, action speaks louder than words. Has anything good come to us shareholders, now approaching 4 YEARS? At what point in time do we qualify this investment as a roll at the roulette table at this point? I believe NOTHING at this point. The silence says as much. I wonder when the SH meeting will be held? Bet it doesn't.