I have to ask a question. Why do a lot of you keep going to that other website if the things they say are lies, fabrications, and false statements? Anyone who has been around this brand for the last couple years (16 months for me) know whats happening and that these folks continue to waste your time and mine. Having to read the posts bitching about them and the website is ridiculous. We don't need to discuss that kind info here. The powers that be watch this website and know we r there for them and they r there for us. Just my two cents after trying to catch up and seeing the amount of posts about the bashers!!!!! Giving them attention is a win for them!