well we will be in the trough of those that sell for beer money until such time that the company is able to show fins, reduction of debt, and/or completed law suits. I think "Trillmoney" was posting that concept in his post of up and down depending on who bought at .0001 and if the SP goes to .0003. Flippers love to keep it in a range so they can work it for months with one or two tick maneuvers making thousands if they do it long enough. That is what I see Longtrader is doing. I would love to see the company bring out some guns and push this through triple zero in a day and then the likings of Longtrader would be gone.