Exactly Big H, that's why I believe a R/S at these levels on pinks is very negative to stabilizing PPS. There is simply not enough big buyers willing to come in to defeat the crap that's going on. You see what happens if just 40 millions shares are traded to move pps up a penny and how fast its walked down again. 40 million shares sounds like a lot but its only about around $400K. We need 100's of million shares traded and with all the longs, management, debtors holding the ask will dry up quickly and higher per share prices will result. Supply and demand factors in but with 2 billion shares outstanding we definitely sustained buyers. For that to happen a few things have to happen: marketing to increase sales, revenue rapidly increasing, audits, forecasting projected growth, announcement of business deals to general investor community, leadership for the future growth, etc. Until then we remain hopeful in the sub penny range hoping for info tid bits to calm our fears why we are losing 75-90% of our investment.