The problem I seem to have with trying to turn people onto the hjoe stock is they do five minutes of research and there are immediately turned away because they read one thing that was bad also behind us now on our timeline and they feel no more research is necessary.. not knowing the specifics of any given situation. most of us here see the day to day with the dealers and the company itself and understand why hjoe does what they do... you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink! The writing is on the wall.