If only people understood what it means to be a start up company. Most new companies do not survive. They are doing something even better, they built a successful startup, had an issue that basically bankrupted the company and yet they are still here. It is more than just the products they are selling, they are ridiculously persistent and i don't sense one ounce of give up in them. While the O/S is larger than when they were hovering around .07, they are 1000x the company they were then. Patience is tough in the OTC market, but being right feels that much better.