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Posted On: 04/20/2016 4:11:54 PM
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Posted By: Bhawks
'Free Stuff', some perspectives. A series of comments in response to the column:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/opinion/we-....html?_r=0

Now, now, before the Limbic Systems of some of you light up like Tokyo at night, consider what 'perspective' is compared to ass on fire exclamations 'free stuff!'. That's right, different from. LOL!

One last point. The GOP lost the last election, in part, because of Romney's dumb-ass 47% comment. The GOP, not being a 'learning organization', will in one form or another revive the 'free stuff' sh*t with.........predictable results.

Trump won't be able to stay away from a 'theme' that is essentially 'GOP catnip' anymore than some posters here can resist it!


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There's loads of free stuff you're getting for free -- the only difference is, you don't have to actually line up to get it. The wealthy today aren't paying anywhere near what their predecessors paid to create the markets and infrastructure which make their current wealth possible, or enough to return the favor to future generations.

So the multi-millionaire with the huge tax breaks is as much a moocher as the 47%, because he's taking out more than he's putting in -- even forgetting that the 47% includes children, retirees, the disabled, etc. and who do in fact pay taxes -- sales, local, payroll, etc., often at marginal rates higher than those of billionaires with tax breaks.

Let’s not forget the “free stuff” companies such as WalMart get by underpaying its employees who then require government assistance to survive. Politicians who stigmatize “free stuff” like food stamps and welfare can have an impact on these things simply by raising the minimum wage.

Free stuff. Fair enough to say that free stuff includes tax credits, deductions and other tax benefits.

There are of course individuals who file tax returns and have through credits, deductions and other tax benefits have a net federal income tax burden of zero. Almost all of those filers are the working poor, retirees and the misfortunate who have suffered catastrophic losses or debilitating injuries or chronic illness.

Too many commenters have made statements that denigrate those who pay zero taxes. One commenter said, "But let's get one thing straight: If 47% aren't paying Federal taxes, but they ARE getting Federal benefits--yes, they ARE getting free stuff."

The 47% (actually 41% of filers pay zero federal income taxes) referred to are just like the other 53%. The 53% get tax deductions, credits and other benefits that reduce their tax liability, just not to zero.

When I see a queue of 53%'ers hoping to join the working poor, retirees and chronically ill, to get that magic zero tax liability, I'll reconsider the merits of such comments.


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