Let's stick with RMHB for a moment, because it's a decent comparison. Fundamentally, they are both spreading their brand fairly well. Stock-wise RMHB had the same problems with their financials and suffered with a stop sign same as HJOE. They fixed it and before it settled in the .03-.04 penny range it made its move from trips to .25 cents. I have seen the recent tweets about copper and silver for HJOE and that opportunity exists with a clean bill of financial health. Thus, KBM first, some movement on EU and vending and perhaps an update on dealers. HJOE themselves has admitted that this is no short-term deal. Silver is definitely possible, but they are looking long-term growth. Sort of like a normal company. I'll look for half penny and copper with fins before we see any type of major run, but that's great for those of us who keep accumulating.