And in China, Bill/TPAC can get this equipment for a fraction of the price in the U.S. Like Bill said Jeff, they farm out a lot of the production work and have no environmental issues... and that way can also increase their capacity. He said hyraulic presses cost $11k in China compared to $75-100k in the U.S... this is HUGE savings to TPAC, especially down the road as it expands!