Hey, TPAC...You might want to take a peak at Lie Hub....I think we may have Breached the Wall....We have left some good people over there that would be solid assets for us...I can't send private IM there,,but maybe someone could..I know some of us post there..and guess what, it has brought the truth to lot of new people over there...Last week I sent a note to Administration, Very firm but polite..and slid in the term Litigate several times..never got response, but no longer get deleted and seem to have unlimited posting..for what its worth OK Dan..there it is !...Called Friday to find out how much room I have on credit line....What an incredible experience....I think we are going to need to put together a BBQ in San Marino !!!...Or we could ask Bill to take us along to the next airshow and share some Peking Duck...