I said Veal was an awful CEO with no track record of success. No one has ever given any examples to the contrary. I sat here today and did quite a bit of DD on the company. Veal's been involved in a couple companies now bankrupt. The only company I see that is still around actually became successful after Veal left. Again, my argument is that HJOE would have been way better off with a beverage industry veteran as CEO. Why would anyone dispute that? An exec from a successful energy drink company may have found angel investors but no one would ever invest in a company run by Veal. That's why their only choice was toxic financing.