To add to K&T post, like I said way before several times why would they want sell to loose control of their baby. All these guys are experienced and talented and could go to work for another company and maybe even make more salary. They don't want to lose their independence. What they are doing is something special building a unique company and will eventually be rewarded. They are moving forward as fast as they can in developments trying to take advantage of market opportunities and possibly that's what got the company in a financial quandary. It all sorts out with revenue growth. Tuesday we get info to ponder.