Good point, I'm fine catching it on an upswing....would much rather do that than trying to catch a knife falling. And my questions are for my own DD....anyone who would be doubtful due to messages on a chat board were probably in doubt already. Besides, I've always said When, not If here....it's just a matter of time to determine entry. I don't have all of the inside info you mention on sales and PR's.....all I can base current pps on is due to the recent conversions.....and if those don't stop or slow down, it really won't matter what the revenue or PR's look like.....