Thanks Rusty and Braden good info, some I remember reported from last year. I was hoping to stimulate AHigh to respond again as he occasionally does. From what you saying things are very busy for ntgl and probably what has prompted pps to rise here of late. I think 2016 will be an exciting time for NTGL and NTEK. Thanks for taking time to respond and refresh my memory of whats going on with NTGL. Appreciate you.