at this point I'm discounting anything of Apple on NTEK and I'm adding it to Roku ...currently Roku is in the lead over Apple Google And Amazon all combined And Ultraflix is #1 on the 4k spotlight That's where we focus ...the only thing apple has going is NFL if it wins the bid it'll need 4k live broadcasting to carry to a world wide audience Only UltraFlix can do...when that come to play we'll go to Dollars..