I certainly understand why more and more people have quit playing otc stocks. I am in two others. both down. one with communication, one without. If these both go down then after 13 yrs. i will be leaving the otc. At one time i was up considerably. now i'm not. Of course, looking at the big board right now it doesn't look like a safe bet either. It looks like the best thing to do is pull a rip van winkle and go to sleep for a year or so then check the markets out.