I dont answer the bashers anymore- i cant. They have shut me up. However, there are a few new people on ihub that are fighting the good fight. I know as fact some of them, including a lot of newbies and even distributors stay on that site and dont come here. Why? Because controversy and conflict sells. Sometimes, there is more accurate information on ihub. I believe the newbies understand the difference between accurate info, good analysis, and plain bashing. However, if there is no good information/analysis, all they will read is the basher's postings. They have seriously hurt the pps. They cant be the only ones posting. Company can say all it wants that this is the "official board," but it doesnt matter, they dont all come here.