Yeah, no offense Ronwy, but tech certs are totally irrelevant to the discussion here. I could show you a massive list of tech certs I have, some of them extremely difficult to get, but that doesn't mean I have any clue what these guys are doing. Mine are almost all security and networking based, which is far more applicable to this than any sort of Apple cert, and I *still* don't claim to know anything about what they're doing. We all hope they are doing good now, and time will certainly tell, but really, the truth is, the pumping just needs to stop. If they are doing good stuff, great, but that board isn't even used for a real discussion about NTEK. It's all about pumping.