Oh Mr. Gitreal, so naive. Who's to say whose scamming who. I don't trust "suspect" ihub posters or that site no more than you don't trust those you profess to be a liar. I know who Joel is, can call him anytime I want and he puts his self out there for all those to see. I know who he is. Who are you and your ilk really? Joel has an open door policy. He's invited you to come look in person for yourself yet you make the same ole lame excuse as to why you won't go. Very very telling Sur and says all I need to know. Only conclusion I have is that your yella lol. I ain't no spring chicken to this game huckleberry. Go see Joel, face to face and report back. Your a daisy if you do....but you ain't no daisy . Prove me wrong bra