I quite reading that board he just a paid basher of the ugly woman who's into BDSM, that Janice Shell freak. I saw those photos now that was disturbing and old ugly woman who look like she smoked here face off with a paddle in her hand lol. Since I was kicked off I don't go read that stuff it's all made up and lies and distortions to influences buyers. They are bashing with one hand and buying with another, it's a criminal short operation and website.