Yes ! The entire advfn group is a multi billion dollar scam. I hub being the jewel in the crown. If any one doubts the influence of this corporation google any otc stock and the top choices, and links will be ihub. It took me years to figure there shit out. They are fined by the SEC often. They are sued regularly. What they spend in fines is a tiny portion of the billions in proffit made. Cost of doing business !