Gets tiring reading all these flip, floppers posts. Complaining one minute, then praising the next, negative one minute, positive the next. Hey people a bit a patience is required, there have been multiple people projecting this to start moving in the fall. I know it can get frustrating with the pps and all but its been said things take time. Trust is required and balls of steel for the OTC. The product and vision is as solid as they come. Stay as positive as possible and project any negative energy towards the bashers! GO NTEK!!!!