Exactly. The original Meow's Musings board was because no one was allowed to question what the hell NTEK was doing and how they continually failed to launch in all respects. Of course, the loss of that board was cataclysmic in some ways, and the way it was lost is reprehensible at best. I imagine that people will eventually start to realize that there is no open communication on that page. IHUB and IHangout NTEK pages are two sides of the same coin.