With due respect what I said is for Joel to show up on this board saying this and that because the haters will always oppose any progress that Joel tries to accomplish. What he should do is continue to do what he really wanted accomplished by laying low but working hard to finally reach that goal. Is that a bad thing? So you want him to post anything and at the end nothing is done because you just let the haters know what he is about to do? You and anyone here wants this stock to rise up, isn't it? For Joel to just keep quiet to me is the right approach but working behind the curtain.