kerry. you have to realize that just like Seaam and Cassandra pretty much destroyed what little value pvec had now Stealofadeal, malc, janice and peepee and some others are doing their damn best to destroy dusa. The truth is that unless something changes they seem to be winning the battle. i have been with you here a long time but if you have an ace in the hole it's time to use it. this is a very important time in the infancy of dusa. it could very well go to trips without a little help and it looks like they have made the conscious effort to gang together and take it there with or without dilution.