Sad but true my friend. Honestly the other boards seem to have denizens that are fanatical, either one side or the other. You will never convince them that you might have a valid point because they are so mired in their side of the fight, they refuse to see anything but "for" or "against." That's why I think the Meow board was so important because it let everyone speak with no deletions.

Have a good weekend Meow.

By the way, I watched that clip from the original F&tF. What a beautiful truck! I hope you get to start taking that out on the road again soon!