JJ- yes it is being manipulated. But at the same time I blame portion of this fiasco on NTEK mgt. they are unable how to manage this down trend. If I was CEO I would have issue a letter giving shareholders updates and confidence. But this mgt is so inabt that I don't think even this cross their mind. They have made so many mistakes in the past that everybody has a reservation on what they are saying. We have been in down trend for almost 10 months. You can't blame it on MM anymore.