Doesn't matter, with or without Victor, the stock is tha chit dating back to Roxy. And your right , welcome to penny stock market and the right of those to prey on others hard earned money. Funniest thing I saw was the recent graveling ( ok begging ) by Victor trying to secure $20,000. The ol rob from Peter to pay Paul. The FBI will love it!. That shareholder simply lead him along like leading a horse to water. He begged and begged thinking he was getting a wire any minute. What little did he know!!! Must have been one hell of a pot smog he was in!