The gipper is wrong, yet again. The reason all of you are here is because I suggested to Tanis on Yahoo's board to come here and bring the others along. I knew the board was originally created but wasn't being used and saw what a mess Yahoo was. Hence why I told Tanis to come over and mod it. Brick and the others soon followed from IHUB. etc. Go look up my name on Yahoo and you'll see the conversation of me inviting Tanis to come here.