That's a valid point Paul, but if you didn't know the average consumer saves about 30% on a refurbished item. Also value of U.S. remanufactured goods grew by 15% to $43Bil according to the U.S. International Trade Commission in 2011. As far as the spread, look at $PAOC about a month back the spread was wider. $PAOC $.34x4.10 and $PGSC at $.3001x1.00. As the bid moves and the spread tightens it's likely we will start to see some good action with $PGSC IMO.