Being somewhat of a newbie here, I have no idea what most of you are talking about most of the time as to who was the biggest reason for TECOs failure in the past. However, when a number of you go to personal attacks, it is hard to give any credibility to what you say. The persons who call others names is why I left IHUB. Respect. Give it to others or you don't get it yourself. I am on the verge of either putting a number of you on ignore or asking this website for help, seeing as the mods are not deleting offensive messages. I expect better of these discussions. Calling people names is offensive. Jim