we've been here before, so the sting of the 4s is a little familiar & hurts a little less.... l guess I got married to NTEK when I was drunk with greed months ago... now been reading talk with 2015 & 2016 in the sentences!!!!.....wow!...just wow!.....holding & even added a bit a week ago....ummmmm, of course that buy is currently red.... can't win for losing around here.....cheers....