Join me on the Amgen board and we can discuss the similaritys. There are many. I have been in Amgen for 20 years. AMBS has more going for it at this point then Amgen ever did. Why do you think the cofounder of Amgen played a major role getting AMBS where it is to. Dr. Rubinfield. The man that says MANF is the greatest thing he's seen in 40 years.