Like I said in earlier post, I think one contacted them, in turn they contacted steve! one said something to me about it, like a month before we all heard about it! I think it was warrior king, but do not recall who it was? I get to much public post privy's and e-mails, you all don't realalize that I struggle to find the old posts and so! You all me me get older faster! LoL!  If I had my crud account yet, could find it, even that would of been pain staking! LoL!