Certainly is a great topic to gather some DD on how payment is made to small networks willing to do anything to have a respectable name to taunt. My research shows a lot of them do it for free with big hopes. Just like icplaces had all of those great names on their site but never received a dime for advertising. Is that what he's doing with punch now? Giving out ad slots hoping that one day they'll decide to start paying? Steve, I may sound ridiculous to you, If I'm completely off but you are free to set me straight. All due respect.