I side stepped your question because I dont give a rats ass whats been claimed by anyone anywhere. Ive seen John build 5 machines to date with the third draft being their flagship model now being commercially manufactured by a engineering firm in the finger lakes region. Remember the commercial go ahead the DEC gave JBI 4 years ago, its finally happening, you harped about that and viola

time to eat CROW

Does Sr. have any CD's for sale?