LOL i have them all UP IN ARMS on I-DUD because they aren't INCLUDED in INFORMATION FROM JEFF!!  LOL.... they are almost fighting amongst themselves!..funny watching  MULTIPLE BASHER FACTIONS at work!... maybe one day they will realize they can't BEAT US!.. they aren't GETTING ANYWHERE! and if any of them think any LONG would give them what they want! THEY ARE IN LA LA LAND!  LOL...fun day!