Not all scenarios are identical but you act as if youre the sole authority in the engimeering world when it comes to JBI's activities. When do you finally admit defeat? JBI has been improving its machines for the past 5 years finally bringing them to market using a national engineering firm to do it. It will be splendid when P20 sales are announced because I have a distinct feeling the FUD on the boards will hastily stfu. Running Plastic2oil isnt like running a ball cap business out of ones apartment. Once again I doubt you have any clue as to what companies will pay for P20 machines so lets leave your worthless speculation tucked up under that squeezingly tight toupee of yours.