You call us bashers, but we are not bashers at all. We are long time PVEI supporters who got burned by the stock in the same way you guys over here did. Maybe we see the writing on the wall now and you choose to still believe, OR maybe you see something amazing coming that we don't see any longer. For me, it is simply a case that no one at PVEC has told us ANYTHING about what they are working on, or what may be coming, or what are PVEIs business plans. They have given conflicting information about the reason their website is down, they have taken down the forum, they have failed to ship certs, and as best I can tell, Jason has gone completely silent along with Peter. Believing in PVEI at this point is blind faith in the unseen, which I think is amazing with religion but not so much with a stock. But I will not post over here any longer because I don't want to be the annoying "basher" who takes jabs every time there is a bad day. I am still very much invested through my wife in PVEC and I hope for the best with PVEI as I stand to gain as well. I just don't see it the same way you guys do, and I want to hold these people to account for our losses, and the only person willing to speak at this point is Kerry, who is not even associated with PVEI any longer. I really hope we get a solid PR soon, or Jason takes the time to speak (as I, and I think you guys as well, have totally given up on Peter.)