Please make a valid argument why people shouldn't be "rosey". Make sure it's factual. Check back in an hour and see the responses you get, and if your post is still there.

WCB dropped a certain pumper down a peg or two, which is my guess for the lack of self promotional spam.

Point is: you've had the forum for the majority of the day. This place is a community, and chit chat happens. Lately, you are right, and I apologize for my part in the back and forth. But if you're asking for only fitx fact based discussions, it'll never happen. Conjecture takes over and you get fights about "bashers" versus "pumpers". Left unabated and you get ihub. While there is a mod that I strongly disagree with, I have no problem saying that they do a good job here. Even on pay sites, chit chat (a lot of it) happens.