Never thought this would/could get that crappy once ... manipulation, bashers etc. is one thing ... also the perhaps stagnating business ... but the overall quality of the company sucks, especially their previously great proverbial connection with us ... in so far this somehow stinks ... looks as long DF was present PR/IR-things went much better ... one would think that a company with the level they had last year could hold it at least, but it actually declined bigtime ...