hey everyone. I haven't been to pvec ihub board today and first time I was able to get here today. Thanks for helping me understand what is going on with atd and the certs. The explanation I got from atd wasn't close to what I was told here. I'm sure pvec took a beating at ihub today. Isn't it amazing. I think we all had a lot of hope over the weekend. Kerry took that away in a hurry. Now just wait and see what takes place. If any of us ever make any money here, we have earned every cent.