Very true, I think Heddle is the right man for the job, no nonsense, right to the point. I meet him at AGM and could tell he was a straight shooter, just like John. First sale is always the hardest for a new tech, after that it's like a boulder rolling down a mountain. It think with John and Rick now pushing the rock up over the crest minus the 3 stoogies we have a fighting chance at success. I just hope they have the stamina needed for the battle. glta