troyal, papa nasty has a point...you can't say something will get "delayed" if you have no reference point...that being said, Barry's projection of July/August leads me to believe he's talking about certification, not first flight. August is too soon for first flight, it's impossible for them to fly anyone before September/October.

But then again, who gives a rat's ass? We want ticket sales and the light at the end of the tunnel for certification. Whether or not they fly doesn't matter. The stock will react WAY more violently (in a good way) to ticket sales and certification than it will to first flight.