Steeler, I have a sincere question for you. Why, do you continue to come to this board if you don't hold shares? CLEARLY you can see that most here are long holders from Ihub and CLEARLY you can see little bashing if anything is present. So, what DO YOU gain from being here? Clearly the longs are not going to be swayed by your statements. CLEARLY the longs know much more then you believe you think you know. So what is your point? You bought MMG's bate hook line and sinker and swore by them. Now you bash them and that is your business. But Kmag didn't wrong you. So what is your issue? Are you just lonely and need friends to speak with? honestly...I don't get your motivation...if it isn't MONEY AND SHARES then what is it?