Like I said gaboy, I understand all of Emax's points. I used to fight the battle also. You'll never win. The liars are supported 100% by iscam. They can post the most libelous and defamatory information, even when it's completely fabricated, and the admin of iscam allows it to stand. So why really bother. If we had just 15 longs posting here daily, this site would also climb to the top. The difference is that those searching would find an honest discussion here. Over their they'll just receive the increased volume of deceit with a few longs posting. Been there, done that, for many years.

The Hangout is just not there yet, but it is happening!