i don't own this so it isn't my fight...i watch, like a vulture to strike at a trading opp. if i get fav conditions i may buy. if not i watch, stalk, and see how the market behaves. right now i see nothing and i don't have all day like niko and others to help other people, nurture stocks and crybabies. i trade stocks, that's what i do and i don't need ihub to do it. does that answer your questions sunny?