I know the old saying it takes money to make money. From my own personal small business experience, with the initial cost, you start to wonder if you will ever get things off the ground and ever be able to make the money back. There are a lot of permits, regulations, restrictions, on and on that people don't realize one has to go through. To me 2 weeks ago when HIMR renewed their business license was a huge step. You have to have that license to set up your state Internal Revenue account and to acquire certain permits. Now to the money part HIMR's only revenue are them trees sitting in bottom of Lake Bayano. To be honest they probably want to see them trees come out of water more than we do.