Thanks Spice,we have such great people here that we can trust,& we needed to do this so that everyone could learn how to trade, we all got emotional with hollund that was a big mistake won't happen again. I have scottrade elite so I can see everything on my screen & I make crazy money with my 5min chart we will use this if u want to day trade,I know exactly when people are selling or buying it is impossible to trade without L2 you are seeing delayed info & you will lose your money.